Fortunately, no one was hurt.The step up from the instruction/GA world to single-pilot 135 is huge. ATC videos on youtube removed dead air gaps in the audio and rammed the sequence together, creating the false impression that the emergency onset was immediately after takeoff. Accident pilot: "I have to meet expectations and get this done"Interesting article reflecting on "completing the mission":https://www.aviationsafetymagazine.com/features/decision-making-for-pilots/. first opened in 1940, KBYI is publicly-owned by the CITY OF BURLEY, ID, which the father is demanding be closed. Yes, sorry about the typo, runway 20, not 30. a pilot is not an athlete either. Kathryn S Report Cessna 320d Executive Skyknight N320mf Registered And Operated By Gv Air Inc Fatal Accident Occurred June 28 2018 In Fairfield Utah County Utah "The captains change to a vertical speed approach after failing to capture the profile glidepath was not in accordance with UPS procedures and guidance and decreased the time available for the first officer to perform her duties." G1000 avionics can log a lot of data if and only if you have a formatted SD card in the top slot of the MFD. The lowest reported cloud layer was 1500 feet higher than the MDA. About 1 minute later, the controller asked the pilot if she had crossed the initial approach fix. This means the potato plant created artificial IFR conditions. https://imgur.com/a/7FTQ82nThe runway has no VASI, PAPI or other visual glidepath aid to indicate that you are dangerously close to hitting those obstacles. Family said "he was a great guy" Must of been a mechanical problem!" Looking at the #1,2 & 3 truck bays on the tater building, the roof height looks to be about 26 feet.This was the image used showing the truck bays:https://goo.gl/maps/xinz7GVPnjkDvJUp6The height AGL to top of stack (if the stack has not been changed from what is seen in the street view image) would be about 70 + 26, making it roughly 100 feet instead of 150. Whatever the case, I can't imagine the pain her family is going through. ntsb releases preliminary report on recent air show crash. i suggest you read it, and digest it. (ADS-B granularity in increments of 25 feet altitude, with rounding and accuracy limitations in FlightAware's processed data reduces precision, but attempting to compensate each point for local pressure variation from 29.92 is eliminated by this technique. Prior to that, the 6,950' altitude transmitted while going back for the second attempt adjusts to the expected 7,000' with the +50' compensation. When there is wind, vapour rises up and away from the stacks, condenses, and begins to fall. Also, someone suggested that the engine might of cut out which I never heard as an issue for that engine.A lot of theory's and conjecture which I find every theory interesting. The left horizontal stabilizer and elevator separated and came to rest about 380 feet northeast of the main wreckage. However, Brittneys favorite thing of all was flying. Let's do the math. The pilot, a 73-year-old female, was taken to the hospital with moderate injuries and is "expected to be okay," the city announced on Facebook.People reported the crash off of Buena Vista Drive around 2:40 p.m. on January 1. Ceilings were 1600 feet higher than minimums. There are no obstruction clearance guarantees below the MDA. Think logically: If the roof could be seen and descended toward as if it was runway, the Snake river and railroad bridge would be expected to occupy that same view. 0. About 0832:25, the airplane came into viewAccording to a witness, located about one quarter mile away, he first heard, then observed the airplane descend out of the clouds then immediately went into a steam cloud, . [1] [2] The cause of the accident is under investigation by the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB). Tubers meaning starchy root vegetables like potatoes? "Santa Monica, California Airport Commissioner Doris Minter, is beginning her third year as member and chairwoman of the city's five member board. She applied power and nose up to go around but the steam cloud pulled her right into the stack.Or maybe you're smarter than the ntsb investigators right there at the scene interviewing witnesses and looking at the weather conditions and the runway and what happened? Mayday, mayday, mayday!Those were the words of an U.S. Air Force F-16 pilot, seconds after the jet collided with a private Cessna over Moncks Corner on July 7, 2015.The National Transportation . The twin engine Cessna reportedly came down near Andrews Avenue.Reports are []. The relationship Brittney had with her mother was truly like no other. The approach path passes just above the smokestack, and there's no vertical guidance because it's LNAV only. Search our listings for used & new airplanes updated daily from 100's of private sellers & dealers. The reported ceilings were well above the MDA, so unless you were sitting in the cockpit next to the pilot, you have no idea if they could make out the runway or not when they passed the MDA. youre implying that a 30 year old female had a major medical incident the moment she was on final approach in marginal wx and that caused the accident. The insurance company, the salvage team, the trauma center were all baffled at how I survived the crash. Nevertheless, RIP to Brittney and condolences to her family and friends. Perhaps the pilot forgot them. (Hot air usually rises!) Now factor in the possibility of wind, turbulence, or lift disturbances when the steam cloud was entered, plus the stack being totally obscured by its own steam cloud, and boom, you've hit that stack. Date: Saturday 29 May 2021: Time: 0.26639294624329: Type: Cessna 501 Citation I/SP: There are less than 4,000 feet available for landing. https://gemairflights.com/. She descended out of the clouds and was quickly enveloped in the steam cloud (as witnessed by people on the ground and by surveillance video). The two pilots in the PA-46, and the flight instructor and student pilot in the Cessna 172, were fatally injured. Would have blended right in with the white sky. I highly doubt a certified pilot who clearly was enjoying flying out of SMO would want to close it. (Although it is interesting to speculate, and discuss.). LINKS:Kathryn's Report: http://www.kathrynsreport.com/2021/10/fatal-accident-occurred-october-11-2021.html#comment-formVasAviation: https://www.youtube.com/w. Anonymous said "On a 3 degree glidpath to LPV minimums you are 54 feet above the normal threshold. Granbury reports they didn't see (post crash): KGDJ 050255Z AUTO 14008KT 5SM BR OVC007 11/10 A3009 RMK AO2 T01050098,M What a dumb place to put the potato factory, lots of open land, but yeahhh lets put factory with stem stacks right on short final. 1, 1, 1 1/2, 2 statute mile visibility was not previously discussed in comments.) Suggest you do a little searching for DG's past history/reputation. It is the end of rational dialogue to follow the leftist crap who are "educating" my grandchildren. The controller then instructed the pilot to execute the published missed approached and to report established [in the hold] at IREME, and to expect the same approach. Ever heard of a displaced threshold? This issue was resolved by the pandemic, which put the company out of business. Neither ASN nor the Flight Safety Foundation are responsible for the completeness or correctness of this information. 0:32. The April 4 METAR headwind of 9 knots at the time is added to the ground speeds, making airspeed 96 knots in the 09:53:05 AM April 4 data point (note that the arcing track getting from the 09:52:44 to the 09:53:05 data point is actually a further distance than straight line, making the true airspeed slightly higher):April 4 METARS (from mesonet.agron.iastate.edu):KBYI 041350Z AUTO 22009KT 10SM CLR 04/M08 A2975KBYI 041353Z AUTO 23009KT 10SM CLR 05/M08 A2975For the accident day, the April 13 METAR headwind of 8 knots at the time is added to the ADS-B reported ground speeds.At 21 seconds before reaching the tater building's edge and 300 feet higher, airspeed was 81 + 8 = 89 knots:Wed 10:32:04 AM 42.5578 -113.7532 216 81 93 4,450 -750http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.5578+-113.7532At reaching the edge of the building, 80 + 8 = 88 knots: Wed 10:32:25 AM 42.5520 -113.7592 217 80 92 4,150 -857http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.5520+-113.7592. Personal attacks and hate speech directed at the NTSB investigators, FAA investigators, Designated Pilot Examiners, Kathryn, as well as other members of the aviation blog, are unacceptable because they are not constructive. A Cessna 182P that went down during weather in Tennessee in early September was the 48 th fatality from crashes involving Cessnas in 2022, according to FAA data. Not surprising an elderly person might have difficulty surviving that. If she was still in IMC after minimums, the witness and security camera would not have seen her aircraft. Go back in your mommas basement and eat your Cheetos and watch SpongeBob. All 5 of his points are irrefuteable. i know what my $ is on and it isnt your theory. Sometimes it's relevant to the accident but most often than not, it just adds a layer of emotion that I can do without.When I look at this story, I tend to reason backwards: the Caravan hit a stack. Display name: PaulS. Or maybe the pilot went around on the first pass *because* they were carrying too much speed. I have done this approach alot and I don't bother with 20 when burley is at minimums or fact that I can't circle to land 24 . Preventing upper body collision with the instrument panel in relatively survivable accidents doesn't get enough consideration. There are many approaches just as challenging, that's why you respect the MDA and you do not descend unless the runway is in sight. A man lost his life and RIP to his loved ones and friends. )How far is the approach path above the smokestack? Steam enters such drums at 140-180C (284-356F) and 10-12 bar. You can use the controls at the top to stop at 14:31:00 and have a look:http://weather.rap.ucar.edu/radar/displayRad.php?icao=KSFX&prod=CREF&bkgr=color&endDate=20220413&endTime=15&duration=1(Link will show that look-back until seven days from 4/13, so copy images before they are no longer accessible if of interest.). A lot of conjecture in this comment, I have over 200 instrument approaches to this airport (of course all have been at minimums :-)), the silos don't come in to play, neither do the cooling towers, it is a tricky approach with a lot of thermal issues from the potato plant and river and roadways but nothing a 1500+ hour pilot can't handle. Flaps don't seem to be deployed. Even a slight gust can carry the rising steam from the potato plants six stacks into the 3.75 approach path. As-flown airspeeds of two different freight company C208's approaching the Gem stacks are interesting to compare.N585SA BYI RW20 C208 VFR approaches:4/15/2022 120 knot GS + 27009KT wind component4/26/2022 096 knot GS + 22011KT wind component4/27/2022 127 knot GS + 28005KT wind componentN928JP BYI RW20 C208 VFR approach:4/04/2022 083 knot GS + 22009KT wind componentN928JP BYI RW20 C208 IMC approach w/crash:4/13/2022 081 knot GS + 19008KT wind component. 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